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	<description>no time left now for shame</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on ESV Children&#8217;s Bible by Jake</title>
		<link>http://wisertime.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/esv-childrens-bible/#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I didn't like the cover either. The ones on the inside are a little better.</description>
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		<title>Comment on ESV Children&#8217;s Bible by James-Michael Smith</title>
		<link>http://wisertime.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/esv-childrens-bible/#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>James-Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The illustrations look pretty realistic (Jesus doesn’t look American, for instance)..."

Except on the flippin' cover!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The illustrations look pretty realistic (Jesus doesn’t look American, for instance)&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Except on the flippin&#8217; cover!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eleven Types of Christian Blog Commenters by James-Michael Smith</title>
		<link>http://wisertime.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/eleven-types-of-christian-blog-commenters/#comment-459</link>
		<dc:creator>James-Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably loves Brian McLaren.

Priceless!  lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably loves Brian McLaren.</p>
<p>Priceless!  lol</p>
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		<title>Comment on Miscellenies by James-Michael Smith</title>
		<link>http://wisertime.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/miscellenies-2/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>James-Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know where Pearl Jam got the name "Ten" from, don't you?  

It was Mookie Blaylock's jersey number and they were huge Mookie Fans.  Little Hawks trivia to add to your nostalgia trivia. 

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know where Pearl Jam got the name &#8220;Ten&#8221; from, don&#8217;t you?  </p>
<p>It was Mookie Blaylock&#8217;s jersey number and they were huge Mookie Fans.  Little Hawks trivia to add to your nostalgia trivia. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case Against Same-Sex Marriage (1) by vladseventysix</title>
		<link>http://wisertime.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/case-against-same-sex-marriage-1/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>vladseventysix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To hoverfrog: 1. As far as human relations (in objective i.e., physical reality) are concerned the perpetuation of the human species (in objective reality) is predicated on mating, heterosexual human relations (in objective reality). So, am I to conclude the human species has never done anything to ackowledge (in human subjective reality, especially human subjective reality of the law) this supremely important fact? The answer is no, I am not to conclude that and it would be asinine to do so. In the law marriage is a union between a man and a woman, i.e., mating heterosexual human relations. Human beings accurately matching-up human relations in their subjective reality, (especially human subjective reality of the law, marriage), with human relations in objective reality, mating heterosexual human relations, forms the Institution of Marriage, i.e., legally predicates the perpetuation of the human species on mating, heterosexual human relations. This is why when a man a woman get married, (i.e., have the perpetuation of the human species legally predicated on them), they can only be legally married as being mating, heterosexual human relations. With the Institution of Marriage it is impossible for a man and a woman to be legally married as being matingless opposite gender human relations. Any particular mating, heterosexual human relations may or may not perpetuate the human species. Human relations are not perfect.  This does not change the fact that whether a man and a woman who are married want to produce children, or not, whether a man and a woman who are married can produce children, or not, is totally irrelevant to the fact that marriage legally predicates the perpetuation of the human species on mating, heterosexual human relations. 2. So, am I to conclude matingless human relations merit legal recognition, but mating heterosexual human relations do not merit legal recognition? Which is what will happen with same sex (i.e., matingless) marriage. That is to say with same sex (i.e., matingless) marriage it will be impossible for a man and a woman to legally be married as being mating heterosexual human relations. With same sex (i.e., matingless) marriage a man and a woman can only legally be married as being matingless opposite gender human relations. The Institution of Marriage can't include matingless opposite gender relations and the Institution of (same sex) Matingless Marriage can't include mating heterosexual human relations. Which is why I ask, so, am I to conclude equality like beauty is in the eye of the beholder? 3. A woman can not physically enter another woman with her reproductive organs, but a man can physically enter another man with his reproductive organ via anal sodomy, i.e., matingless "mating". 4. As far as the definition of sodomy, different dictionaries have slightly different definitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To hoverfrog: 1. As far as human relations (in objective i.e., physical reality) are concerned the perpetuation of the human species (in objective reality) is predicated on mating, heterosexual human relations (in objective reality). So, am I to conclude the human species has never done anything to ackowledge (in human subjective reality, especially human subjective reality of the law) this supremely important fact? The answer is no, I am not to conclude that and it would be asinine to do so. In the law marriage is a union between a man and a woman, i.e., mating heterosexual human relations. Human beings accurately matching-up human relations in their subjective reality, (especially human subjective reality of the law, marriage), with human relations in objective reality, mating heterosexual human relations, forms the Institution of Marriage, i.e., legally predicates the perpetuation of the human species on mating, heterosexual human relations. This is why when a man a woman get married, (i.e., have the perpetuation of the human species legally predicated on them), they can only be legally married as being mating, heterosexual human relations. With the Institution of Marriage it is impossible for a man and a woman to be legally married as being matingless opposite gender human relations. Any particular mating, heterosexual human relations may or may not perpetuate the human species. Human relations are not perfect.  This does not change the fact that whether a man and a woman who are married want to produce children, or not, whether a man and a woman who are married can produce children, or not, is totally irrelevant to the fact that marriage legally predicates the perpetuation of the human species on mating, heterosexual human relations. 2. So, am I to conclude matingless human relations merit legal recognition, but mating heterosexual human relations do not merit legal recognition? Which is what will happen with same sex (i.e., matingless) marriage. That is to say with same sex (i.e., matingless) marriage it will be impossible for a man and a woman to legally be married as being mating heterosexual human relations. With same sex (i.e., matingless) marriage a man and a woman can only legally be married as being matingless opposite gender human relations. The Institution of Marriage can&#8217;t include matingless opposite gender relations and the Institution of (same sex) Matingless Marriage can&#8217;t include mating heterosexual human relations. Which is why I ask, so, am I to conclude equality like beauty is in the eye of the beholder? 3. A woman can not physically enter another woman with her reproductive organs, but a man can physically enter another man with his reproductive organ via anal sodomy, i.e., matingless &#8220;mating&#8221;. 4. As far as the definition of sodomy, different dictionaries have slightly different definitions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on The Shack by James-Michael Smith</title>
		<link>http://wisertime.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/thoughts-on-the-shack/#comment-456</link>
		<dc:creator>James-Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man, I put up a first part review at the Dojo, but haven't finished writing the second part.

I see the truth in what the critics are saying (though some of them are critiquing it from a purely Reformed foundation...in other words, they'd probably critique any portrayal of God that didn't line up with Westminster).  But the criticisms regarding sin and universalism are understandable.

But after finishing the book, I ultimately don't agree with those criticisms fully.  I understand wanting to have any portrayal of the Christian faith be bolstered by Scripture citations.  But I also understand an author not wanting to turn a novel into a systematic text.  Think how the Narnia Chronicles or Perelandra would have been lessened had Lewis included Scripture for each point where the story made a theological claim.  They would've lost the literary power they have (particularly Perelandra and Out of the Silent Planet).  

But therein lies the difficulty with The Shack.  Simply put, Young is no Lewis.  The Shack isn't fictional enough to get away with not being judged theologically.  If the identities of the Trinune Godhead were not so matter-of-fact (i.e. if Jesus were a Lion named Aslan or a Wizard named Gandalf) then the book could afford to be a little theologically loose.  After all, The Shack is not NEARLY as much bent toward universalism as The Last Battle--but Lewis allegorized or metaphorized his depiction of the Tash-worshipping soldier coming to realize he had been worshipping Aslan all along.

So while I see the merit in some of the critic's objections, I think the issues that the book seeks to address do not warrant such a full treatment as many critics want to see.  The God portrayed in The Shack is a bit saccharine, true.  But not to the point of heresy.  The setting is a bit Kincadeian, but that's more a matter of personal taste.  Overall, when theological issues--particularly the way theodicy is handled--come up in the book, I find myself in agreement with the underlying theology to a large extent, as would many outside of Reformed circles.

My 2 denarii,
JMS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man, I put up a first part review at the Dojo, but haven&#8217;t finished writing the second part.</p>
<p>I see the truth in what the critics are saying (though some of them are critiquing it from a purely Reformed foundation&#8230;in other words, they&#8217;d probably critique any portrayal of God that didn&#8217;t line up with Westminster).  But the criticisms regarding sin and universalism are understandable.</p>
<p>But after finishing the book, I ultimately don&#8217;t agree with those criticisms fully.  I understand wanting to have any portrayal of the Christian faith be bolstered by Scripture citations.  But I also understand an author not wanting to turn a novel into a systematic text.  Think how the Narnia Chronicles or Perelandra would have been lessened had Lewis included Scripture for each point where the story made a theological claim.  They would&#8217;ve lost the literary power they have (particularly Perelandra and Out of the Silent Planet).  </p>
<p>But therein lies the difficulty with The Shack.  Simply put, Young is no Lewis.  The Shack isn&#8217;t fictional enough to get away with not being judged theologically.  If the identities of the Trinune Godhead were not so matter-of-fact (i.e. if Jesus were a Lion named Aslan or a Wizard named Gandalf) then the book could afford to be a little theologically loose.  After all, The Shack is not NEARLY as much bent toward universalism as The Last Battle&#8211;but Lewis allegorized or metaphorized his depiction of the Tash-worshipping soldier coming to realize he had been worshipping Aslan all along.</p>
<p>So while I see the merit in some of the critic&#8217;s objections, I think the issues that the book seeks to address do not warrant such a full treatment as many critics want to see.  The God portrayed in The Shack is a bit saccharine, true.  But not to the point of heresy.  The setting is a bit Kincadeian, but that&#8217;s more a matter of personal taste.  Overall, when theological issues&#8211;particularly the way theodicy is handled&#8211;come up in the book, I find myself in agreement with the underlying theology to a large extent, as would many outside of Reformed circles.</p>
<p>My 2 denarii,<br />
JMS</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eleven Types of Christian Blog Commenters by gavmbree</title>
		<link>http://wisertime.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/eleven-types-of-christian-blog-commenters/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>gavmbree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very funny. I've seen them all. Of course I wanted to try to be one of those commenters in an obvious way in this comment, but then I realized that that would be a lame attempt at humor.

Perhaps that could be number 12: The Lame Attempt at Humor Guy......wait.....did I just become that guy? 

My favorite line in the post:

"Talking to him is like trying to nail jell-o to the wall, only if that jell-o is heretical poison that is falling into innocent children’s mouths."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny. I&#8217;ve seen them all. Of course I wanted to try to be one of those commenters in an obvious way in this comment, but then I realized that that would be a lame attempt at humor.</p>
<p>Perhaps that could be number 12: The Lame Attempt at Humor Guy&#8230;&#8230;wait&#8230;..did I just become that guy? </p>
<p>My favorite line in the post:</p>
<p>&#8220;Talking to him is like trying to nail jell-o to the wall, only if that jell-o is heretical poison that is falling into innocent children’s mouths.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eleven Types of Christian Blog Commenters by Face</title>
		<link>http://wisertime.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/eleven-types-of-christian-blog-commenters/#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HA!
I suspect that this comments section will be strangely silent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HA!<br />
I suspect that this comments section will be strangely silent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eleven Types of Christian Blog Commenters by Rebby</title>
		<link>http://wisertime.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/eleven-types-of-christian-blog-commenters/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The temptation to attempt to write an comment that encompasses all 11 descriptions is great.

And by the way '"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the Lord, "Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool."' Isaiah 1:18

I think that sums it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The temptation to attempt to write an comment that encompasses all 11 descriptions is great.</p>
<p>And by the way &#8216;&#8221;Come now, and let us reason together,&#8221; Says the Lord, &#8220;Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool.&#8221;&#8216; Isaiah 1:18</p>
<p>I think that sums it up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case Against Same-Sex Marriage (1) by hoverfrog</title>
		<link>http://wisertime.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/case-against-same-sex-marriage-1/#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>hoverfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vlad said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Marriage legally predicates the perpetuation of the human species on mating&lt;/blockquote&gt;No, it doesn't.  To assume so is to deny legal marital status to any couple who decides that they do not want or cannot have children.  Limiting marriages only for the purpose of procreation is practically medieval.

&lt;blockquote&gt;With same sex marriage at best a man and a woman will be married as matingless opposite gender human relations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Your point being what? That marriage is an archaic institution limiting sexual relationships to those who have then authorised by a third party?

&lt;blockquote&gt;At worst they will be married as two males performing anal sodomy, matingless “mating”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;There are a few ridiculous assumption here.  You limit your condemnation to two males.  What about two females who decide to marry?  What about two men who marry but don't engage in anal sex?  What about a heterosexual couple who do engage in anal sex?  What about a lesbian couple who enjoy anal sex with toys?  If you don't like the idea of anal sex that's fine.  Don't have anal sex.  No-one is forcing you to.

Also you should look up sodomy as a word.  Anal sodomy is pretty much a pleonasm.  I mean, you can't have non-anal sodomy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vlad said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Marriage legally predicates the perpetuation of the human species on mating</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t.  To assume so is to deny legal marital status to any couple who decides that they do not want or cannot have children.  Limiting marriages only for the purpose of procreation is practically medieval.</p>
<blockquote><p>With same sex marriage at best a man and a woman will be married as matingless opposite gender human relations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your point being what? That marriage is an archaic institution limiting sexual relationships to those who have then authorised by a third party?</p>
<blockquote><p>At worst they will be married as two males performing anal sodomy, matingless “mating”.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are a few ridiculous assumption here.  You limit your condemnation to two males.  What about two females who decide to marry?  What about two men who marry but don&#8217;t engage in anal sex?  What about a heterosexual couple who do engage in anal sex?  What about a lesbian couple who enjoy anal sex with toys?  If you don&#8217;t like the idea of anal sex that&#8217;s fine.  Don&#8217;t have anal sex.  No-one is forcing you to.</p>
<p>Also you should look up sodomy as a word.  Anal sodomy is pretty much a pleonasm.  I mean, you can&#8217;t have non-anal sodomy.</p>
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